Yes I would like to know the answer to this one. Ive been out for maybe 10 years or so.
I would like to know where my card would be at
Could anyone from Bethel verify DOC's understanding?
lp
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4What happens with my Service Card, if i dont go to meetings anymore?
by Smoky ini have not been to meeting, or been visited by an elder from my congregation in years.
i thought they where suppose to account for everyone in congregation to coe, when he visits.
could they be possibly be hiding my card, or even destroyed it, so coe wont get mad at them.. any former elder know how this is handled?.
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Heart bypass surgery & blood
by Twitch inmy father had an angioplasty this morning and was admitted immediately for coronary artery bypass surgery due to major blockages found.. how likely or necessary is a blood transfusion for this?.
what's the latest policy on blood?.
i realize there's likely a thread or two dedicated to the subject but i'm looking for the short answer from those in the know, at least on the latter.. i only found out this morning and am heading to the hospital now.
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l p
During the surgery they normally keep the patients own blood in circulation through the form of a cell saver.
The problem is after the surgery when the patient comes off bypass. I have recovered many patients immediately after coming off bypass and they (99%) all require either FFP or platelets and cryo etc. This is bec the bypass machine pumps the blood through the machine to oxygenate it and rollers in the machine chew up and destroy all the clotting factors platelets etc in the blood. So when the patient comes off bypass they are very leaky. So they need all these components reintroduced or they will bleed. Some patients do bleed bec they are leaky and need blood as well as the clotting components till they can establish homeostasis (stability in the patient).
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Dating - with an added bonus!
by l p inits taken some time for me to get back into the dating game.. i have started online dating.
but alas i have had 2 interesting dates.
ive managed to question both individuals beliefs potentially destabilising thier beliefs (1 without knowing and the other was intentional).
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Well all,
Its taken some time for me to get back into the dating game.
I have started online dating. But alas I have had 2 interesting dates. Ive managed to question both individuals beliefs potentially destabilising thier beliefs (1 without knowing and the other was intentional).
Both individuals were of very strict religions (greek orthodox and coptic orthodox). How I end up on these dates I don't know when I put on my profile Im agnostic/atheist.
Anyhow the most recent one was the most fun. He was the coptic orthodox. A psychiatrist. I managed to ask him how on earth a psychiatrist believes in god? and I was laughing. He couldnt answer that.
I told him that I am on the agnostic-athiest spectrum. We had a deep discussion about religion and the bible.
I just said that I couldn't believe that there is a god or at the very least a god that is interested in human affairs and wants humans to live life in a certain manner when he/she/it does not communicate. I said - you wanted to kknow me and vice versa and we met and introduced ourselves so that we both knew who the other was. There was no confusion. God could easily speak from the heavens and introduce himself to human kind and give directions on how to live life. Then I followed up that people would be determined as "mentally ill" if they professed hearing god speaking to them and giving them directions or orders (No pun intended - but loved the pun!) He had absolutely no response because he knew that kind of individual would be quickly medicated by himself!! haha
then I went on to ask - so would you want your family to be in the same religion and go to church? he replied with a nod. I then said well why don't you look for a wife in your own religion? he gave a pissy answer that wasnt an answer.
I asked - well what would happen if one of your children decided at 14 or so that they did not agree with the teachings or want to follow or practice your religion? he then replied that he would be disappointed and that like the prodigal son he would hope that they would correct their way.
I then asked - are there any repercussions if a child decided to leave? he replied "as in excommunication?" I said yes. He said no - they would obviously live in the same house and i just said that some religions use the prodigal son parable to justify excommunication.
Well first for me - go on a date with a psychiatrist and make the psychiatrist so uncomfortable that he had absolutely no answer to any of the questions/issues I posed!
What an intelligent man!
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Since you've left, are you still good friends with your bestest JW buddies?
by Julia Orwell inis it possible that someone has a jw friend who's very active in the congregation, knows you don't believe it anymore, and is still your friend?
i'm at the point where word is getting out that i'm not going to meetings anymore, and friends ask me if they'll be seeing me at the ca and i tell them i'm not going.
they want to know why, and what they can do to encourage me.
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l p
I have to say that when I left I left all my friends behind.
Luckily I have reunited with some friends that have left and you know I just spent this weekend with them and jwfacts and his wife and son. It was just like the "old" days. There is such a closeness there even though it was over 10 years ago when we were all together.
Its so great being reunited. i dont think I will find other friends that will be as close as these as we all were in the same place for many years.
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2013 DC new releases - rumors ???
by obarac inthere is rumors that in this years dc nwt will be released and also new tracts.
any other rumors about new releases?.
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l p
I reckon a brochure on 'The perils of porn' would be timely. They could even use good illustrations to 'drive the point home'!
lp
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In response to Cedars re: I have just been disinvited to my brothers wedding- thanks AAWA
by l p inhi cedars,.
re: http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/watchtower/scandals/250655/1/i-have-just-been-disinvited-to-my-brothers-wedding-thanks-aawa .
i completely agree with the mission and intentions of aawa.
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Hi Cedars,
I completely agree with the mission and intentions of AAWA. I think it is the right "KIND" of thing to pursue to setup...
However - given this thread and probably others (I have not been reading a real lot of them nor following) I think it is not right to dismiss Simon and put him in his place by saying he has a personal crusade (im imagining re: AAWA) when in actual fact you being involved in the formation of AAWA .....IS A PERSONAL CRUSADE in itself.
The pot calling the kettle black here!
All Simon was doing was calling for an action by AAWA to PROTECT OTHERS
just like AAWA is calling for action by the WTBTS to PROTECT - families(from disfellowshipping affects) lives (re: blood issue), children (sexual abuse cover ups in the borg)
really i think we are ALL ON THE SAME TEAM. We just need to be fighting in an organised fashion.
Perhaps AAWA does need to look at whats been happening and revisit because people ARE LOOSING THEIR FAMILIES because of a lack of controls around the administartion of the AAWA fb page
Don't have a clinical view to investigating this...have a humanistic view
I will NOT support AAWA -until it tightens up ship and protects members - and to let you know I have a lot to offer AAWA
Sent with peace and kindness
lp
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My Meetings With Two Elders Today, "I am not a Christian and I am going to Die!"
by ÁrbolesdeArabia inhi, my time is drawing ever closer as i can no longer speak lies about the organization and all the past revisions and my sins i committed against everyone i judged while serving on judicial committees.
i lay awake at night with guilt because i ask jehovah and his son jesus christ to forgive me for being so judgemental, self assured and arrogant at certain times in my life.
i was not a prince of peace, at times i was a coward when i was first appointed because i wanted to keep all things peaceful with my peers, not with my heavenly father and saviour jesus christ.
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i reckon doing that takes it away from being scriptual and spiritual and a discussion and debate over theology and if you do go to the police play dumb with the police and say you dont really know what they really mean by threatening your life and your families...let the cops investigate...
and whatever outcome from the cops it will hopefully legally make an example of how this kind of speech is hate speech and threatening...and if no one ever does this and stands up then that organisation will never be held to account....
remember...it is ILLEGAL to threaten anyone....and they have THREATENED you and your family with DEATH if YOU DO NOT COMPLY....they need to answer to the authorities
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My Meetings With Two Elders Today, "I am not a Christian and I am going to Die!"
by ÁrbolesdeArabia inhi, my time is drawing ever closer as i can no longer speak lies about the organization and all the past revisions and my sins i committed against everyone i judged while serving on judicial committees.
i lay awake at night with guilt because i ask jehovah and his son jesus christ to forgive me for being so judgemental, self assured and arrogant at certain times in my life.
i was not a prince of peace, at times i was a coward when i was first appointed because i wanted to keep all things peaceful with my peers, not with my heavenly father and saviour jesus christ.
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Arbo...I really feel for you.....can you just avoid them at all cost...dont talk to them anymore...dont talk to them giving them any evidence on you....
please dont let them disfellowship you and use that to make out that YOU are the one that is EVIL.....
if you must make a response to the threats of death to your children...how about you respond: I will inform the local police department to speak with you two about this as you are threatening my childrens lives and this needs a criminal investigation...it is illegal to threaten someones life....so i'll let the cops know and they can get to the bottom of what your comments REALLY mean
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I heard Jehovah's Witnesses were the first ones on the scene in Boston providing assistance.
by Theocratic Sedition inyou know those articles from the wt are coming, along with emails from jw friends and family.
all the shameless self-attaboys, and fictitious observations by non-jws remarking on how jws provided the most and best assistance to the victims..
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Aren't they always?
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Someone in here is a mole
by focariedu21 inhy guys the other day my wife had a discussion with her jws brother and he told her that he received all posted material from this site posted by myself and was disgusted with the information.
now that's all fine by me but what i am pissed about is that some one in here from sydney australia is a mole and pretends to be an ex jws while all the while exposing each and every one he knows as in my case.
you are one big coward and one who hides behind a skirt a yellow and a chicken shit whom doesn't have the balls to face me in person because you obviously know who i am.
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Hey Pickler, when are we catching up?
Yeah I just got a little nervous with this opening thread because when i hear that someone is from Sydney I email and tell them my name etc and bring up meeting up...geez...im too trusting...
anyhow? anyone else from Sydney want to meet up...im not DF'ed...not formally DA'ed...I just left
lp